Reported in: http://oldwaldensianpaths.blogspot.it/2014/09/the-contemporary-waldensian-apostasy.html
The Contemporary Waldensian Apostasy
In the 16th and 17th centuries, the Waldensians joined forces with the German and French Reformed Protestants. By then most of them had adopted infant baptism. They have grown increasingly weaker in modern times, and today the Waldenses are on the cutting edge of ecumenical and theological apostasy.In 1975, the Waldensian churches in Italy merged with the liberal Methodists. The Waldensians are members of the radically liberal World Council of Churches (WCC). (The Sixth WCC Assembly in Vancouver, British Columbia, in 1987, began with pagan sacrifices offered by North American Indians who danced around a “sacred” fire.)The book You Are My Witnesses: The Waldensians across 800 Years, which I purchased at the Waldensian Museum in Torre Pellice, leaves no doubt about the apostasy of the present-day Waldenses. In 1947, they formed the Agape ecumenical center, the building of which “ended definitely the church’s conservative tilt” and “created the critical mass which led the church into far more liberal, and even radical, years” (You Are My Witnesses, p. 277).Since the early 1980s, Agape “has been hosting ecumenical conferences for homosexuals” (p. 303). In 1962, the Waldensian synod voted to ordain women as pastors, and today 14% of the pastors and roughly 50% of the theological students are females (p. 298).In 1968, Waldensians helped establish the Lombardini center in Milan, Italy. It “was perhaps the most Marxist in all Italian Protestantism” and “in theology it was pronouncedly Barthian” (p. 282). Valdo Viney, former dean of the Waldensian Seminary, says that the time for traditional evangelism “is over and that it is now necessary that Waldensians be a critical leaven within Italian Christianity and culture” (p. 283). The advanced apostasy of the Waldensian churches is described in the following paragraph, which is near the end of the book You Are My Witnesses: “Culturally, Italy is a pluralistic society, in which all confessions can live peaceably side by side, believers and non-believers, Christians and Muslims, Jews and Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses. Who better than the ancient Waldensian Church, now rooted across the peninsula and Sicily, can symbolize this opening to pluralism, to legitimize it and give it an historical perspective as old as the nation?” (p. 293). This sounds like the syncretistic, all-encompassing “one-world harlot church” that we read about in Revelation 17, and the Waldenses, having rejected their glorious heritage, are right in the middle of it.
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Tuesday, November 11, 2014
Anabaptist bread-With Catholic leaven 2: Rockefeller by Association
http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2014/11/anabaptist-bread-with-catholic-leaven-2.html
Monday, February 17, 2014
"In 1968, Waldensians helped establish the Lombardini center in Milan, Italy. It “was perhaps the most Marxist in all Italian Protestantism” and “in theology it was pronouncedly Barthian” (p. 282). Valdo Viney, former dean of the Waldensian Seminary, says that the time for traditional evangelism “is over and that it is now necessary that Waldensians be a critical leaven within Italian Christianity and culture” (p. 283)"
ReplyDeleteSums it all..... no more "waldensians" in the literal, geographical sense, now every true believer who is a (pre-reformation) protestant would be a "Waldensian" . And the circumstances may require it within a decade or so . . . .
But If the pope and jesuits think that they have struck a major victory against christianity by infiltrating and corrupting an italian handful of churches, which may or may not have a relation to post-reformation waldenses, which most certainly have little to no relation to prereformation waldenses, we can only shake our heads at them.
They can throw a 1000 tons of dirt over the bones of the christian martyrs and can tell a 1000 000 lies, but at judgment day they will be the ones asking for a drop of water and the poor of the valleys will shine in the kingdom of their Father.
See Karl Barth ("Barthian"), smells of Origen's doctrine:
ReplyDelete".... Barth asserted that eternal salvation for everyone, even those that reject God, is a possibility that isn't just an open question but should be hoped for by Christians as a matter of grace; specifically, he wrote, "Even though theological consistency might seem to lead our thoughts and utterances most clearly in this direction, we must not arrogate to ourselves that which can be given and received only as a free gift", just hoping for total reconciliation.[29]
Barth, in the words of a later scholar, went a "significant step beyond traditional theology" in that he argued against more conservative strains of Protestant Christianity in which damnation is seen as an absolute certainly for many or most people. To Barth, Christ's grace is central.[29]
Understanding of Mary
Main article: Karl Barth's views on Mary
Unlike many Protestant theologians, Barth wrote on the topic of Mariology (the theological study of Mary). Barth's views on the subject agreed with much Roman Catholic dogma but he disagreed with the Catholic veneration of Mary. Aware of the common dogmatic tradition of the early Church, Barth fully accepted the dogma of Mary as the Mother of God, seeing a rejection of that title equivalent to rejecting the doctrine that Christ's human and divine ...".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Barth