"..........What about the Coptic Church, Ethiopian Church, Chaldean, Byzantine Church … and then we have Eastern Orthodox; Russian, Estonian, Greek, Serbian, Macedonian, Bulgarian, Georgian, Cypriot, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Latvian, Moldavian, Ukranian … all these who suffered the yoke of Islam or Nazism (or even both), have what Mr. White considers “heretical views,” in which he would consider non-negotiable to enter heaven!?...........".
URL: http://shoebat.com/2014/08/10/catholics-died-defending-jews-nazism-going-hell/
Here we have the open confession with that "heretical views". For the Roman Catholic church the "good works" no matter for what reason are done, are sufficient to go in Heaven, even if you are a staunch denier of God. Even quite the works without faith, just only the faith in works.
Therefore for Catholic doctrine no matter how heretic you are, only "do good works". Catholic church is so convicted of this that in order to push millions of people to do "good works" she invented millions of heresies since the time of Imperial Rome and neo-Platonic Alexandria. Think only to the counter-sects created by Rome filled with heresies to counter the Vaudoises, ancient Independent Baptists. Or the modern heresies of Communism and Fascism.
Yes, you can go right to Hell even if you give your life for someone. Because you do that with the same spirit as a Kamikaze kills himself for a "Greater Cause". Also Hamas would agree the Catholic interpretation of James that "faith without works is dead". As once told me Stiliyanov, don't worry if among Muslims you find hatred towards Paul, I mean Paul of Romans and Corinthians.
Because you dupe yourself with the satanic conviction that your actions and your hands can save you, because you are so duped of your ego that you are disposed to die instead to live and suffer the terrible delusion in to see that NO WORK of the proper hands can save you except faith.
Or is Jesus Christ died in vain on the cross?
Faith can be checked only by God. But works, or low actions in a degraded material world, can be checked also by a god of flesh of this world. The pope of Rome.
Saturday, August 2, 2014
...but works without faith?
http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2014/08/but-works-without-faith.html
Why therefore Shoebat limit himself only on those churches he likes? Shoebat should add also: the atheist, the Communist, the Fascists. And: if a Catholic really dies for a Jew is no more a Catholic because Catholicism is based on the Denial of the Old Covenant as "punishment of God". Note the deception and trickery of Shoeabat. True Catholics, the Jesuits, were training the SS and organizing the "punishment of God". And sent the "untrustworthy" Catholics with the Jews in the Konzentration Lager. The deception of Shoebat is such abominable and speaks about the Jesuit mind controlling his thought, evidenced by his reversing of the truth. The Catholic deemed "heretic" (righteous Christians because refused to follow the dictate of the Temporal Swords of Catholicism, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin etc.) were sent to die in the lagers, but were recycled as "Christian victims", as hypocrite testimonial of the fact that "Catholicism is the only true Christendom".
Final observation. Very keen the question of Shoebat. Always to put Calvinists, who - as concern my knowledge - are not supersessionist and are not hostile to the keeping of the Old Covenant, against the Jews. And deceive Jews, making them to think that their greatest enemy, the Catholic supersessionists, are their "savior".
Also Satan wanted to "save" Jesus when on the pinnacle. Just give up your Father and bow to me. The same with the Jews. Catholic supersessionists know well how to "save" Jews. Just give up God in heaven and bow down to the meat god on earth - the pope of Rome. Right for this goal Vatican was the first diplomacy to recognize the terrorist OLP of Arafat....
неделя, 10 август 2014 г.
Guilty by association - Joachim of Fiore circa 2014 (pt 10)http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2014/08/guilty-by-association-joachim-of-fiore.html
Monday, March 18, 2013
The Protocols of the New Covenant World Roman Empire
http://apparentlyenemies.blogspot.it/2013/03/the-new-covenant-world-roman-empire.html
I do not believe that salvation by works can take anyone to heaven. Salvation is through the grace of God. How anyone can extrapolate this from my statement above is mind boggling. So they tell me that the devil corrupted the Church which added works and so we needed a reformation which sprung up when someone said “faith alone”, but was it only Martin Luther who added the word “alone” with the word “faith” in the same phrase, or was it used way before Martin Luther arrived to the scene by Origen (1) Hilary (2), Basil (3), Ambrosiaster (4), “sola fide justificati sunt dono Dei,” through faith alone they are justified by a gift of God; John Chrysostom (5) Cyril of Alexandria (6), Bernard and Theophylact (7) that man “is justified by faith alone” (8).
ReplyDeleteThe difference was that these were pro-James while Luther was vehemently anti-James: “Only the papists accept James on account of the righteousness of works, but my opinion is that it is not the writing of an apostle. Someday I will use James to fire my stove.” (9)
Luther questioned God as if “did God really say that man is not justified by faith alone?” and by that alone I should run for my life? Or should I trust James that when the biblical God used the word faith as “only to believe” that He defined faith it not to only mean, “believe” but that it meant, “believe and do” since James said “Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works”.
I read the Bible, I never knew until I entered the Church where they told me that salvation is so simple to comprehend since it was all about grace, yet then they showed me a Bible which they compartmentalized and neatly sectioned into subjects, as if we had a Bible chapter called “Imputed righteousness,” and another titled “Imparted Righteousness,” then “Infused Righteousness,” and a prophet who wrote an entire thesis on “Justification and Sanctification,” yet another who argued all the point on “Total Depravity,” “Unconditional Election,” “Limited Atonement,” “Irresistible Grace,” “The Five Points of Calvinism,” “doctrine of perspicuity,” “Covenant theology,” “God's transcendence,” and “substitutionary atonement” while the poor sinner who stands on a street corner is singing “all I need is love”. The anti-legalism I found created hair-splitting jargon, which takes a lawyer to unravel.
But is this my crime? That I do not adhere to complicated jargon and that Faith Alone is what was taught by the very churches I mentioned above in my quote?
Thank you for intervening in my blog Mr Shoebat.
Delete"I do not believe that salvation by works can take anyone to heaven. Salvation is through the grace of God.".
The salvation is given by God with grace but we have access to it through faith:
"1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God."
[Romans chapter 5]
"..So they tell me that the devil corrupted the Church which added works and so we needed a reformation which sprung up when someone said “faith alone”,..".
Salvation by works was always present in the Catholic church and declarations of the right doctrine (faith-alone) was only an opportunism in order to not fire the opposition of true Christians. The doctrine of salvation by works is present with the canonization as 'saint' of the archangel Michael whose work of "judgement" (in substitution of Jesus Christ the Lord) is replied by the priest. Confession and "absolution" is the definitive proof that the Catholic church blasphemes God Father and the Son pretending to save humans from eternal damnation. Of course in this case the priest in order to absolve requires works as being a priest a human being he cannot inquire nor judge another human soul but only human works.
"....So if a Catholic died in Hitler’s furnace believing he was serving Christ in carrying his cross, dying as a martyr to defend the Jews, according to White, that Catholic is bound to hell, just as the homosexual pastor goes into the pit with him...".
DeleteOf course. After an entire life of mocking God worshiping idols and letting (thanks the absolution-theology of Catholicism) sin and wickedness enter in the human life, sin and wickedness which shaped also the damned soul of Adolph Hitler, you cannot save your soul performing the Kamikaze.
"And what Catholic thought he is going to heaven because “how he died”? It is why he chose to give his life as one of Christ’s spiritual brethren and by emulating Christ carrying their cross and defending and dying for His physical brethren, the Jews."
Catholics believes the Madonna or Mary is the mediatrix between them and Christ therefore they greatly offend Jesus considering his sacrifice not-perfect and considering him a non-perfect God needing of an auxiliary aid - His mother. They are not brethren of Christ but of their IDEA of Christ, an idea of their fleshy minds.
Catholics putting their salvation in the hands of other humans (priests, popes, etc.) are denying God. But in fact the God you talk there who should "save" the soul of the Catholic who dies to save a Jew is not the true God, but simply the "public opinion".
Of which you search the applause and the political support. Communists, atheists, great part of Protestants, every hater of God as well of every religious group on earth where Christ is not well known will support you and be against me. You've got your goal, Mr Shoebat, to demonstrate that human works are the true divinity to worship and bow down in front of.
This are you saying: "it doesn't matter if you have faith in Christ, you can have faith in Marx, in Shiva, in Mohammad, in the Gnostic Mysteries, in the Aliens, it all equal for God, Shiva, Marx, Mohammad, Gnosticims are the same as Christ: you are saved by works".
Therefore Christ is useless. Could ever have God sent an 'useless' Son to die for our sins? Of course not, but indeed this is an elegant form to deny God the Son:
"3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." [ 1 John 4:2-4King James Version (KJV)].
"7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." [Romans 5:7-8]
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" [Acts 10:34]
"....So if a Catholic died in Hitler’s furnace believing he was serving Christ in carrying his cross, dying as a martyr to defend the Jews, according to White, that Catholic is bound to hell, just as the homosexual pastor goes into the pit with him...".
DeleteWell, I can also answer to you in this way. If that "Catholic" dies in such a way etc. and then he GETS the grace from God, is only because the FAITH he had in doing or attempting to do or in his pure will was sufficient for God to see that the man/woman, in his deep heart finally emancipated him/herself from the Catholic apostasy.
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ReplyDeleteNo greater blasphemy is there in the world than to degrade Christ's ultimate sacrifice to the level of the self righteous deed of a deluded sinner.
ReplyDeleteAll the works back from Cain's petty garden to now, all the self sacrifices by "good men" that ever lived are not worth one blood cell of the blood of Christ shed for us empty wretches, durt and dust, ready to dissolve.
To teach that you can die for your own sins.......unimaginable.....
You need to die with Christ at the cross (in Him through faith), not pretend to be Christ, saving yourself and others.
"I do not believe that salvation by works can take anyone to heaven. Salvation is through the grace of God"
ReplyDeleteScripture is clear = grace equals faith minus the works:
Romans 11:
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
"And what Catholic thought he is going to heaven because “how he died”? It is why he chose to give his life as one of Christ’s spiritual brethren and by EMULATING Christ carrying their cross and defending and dying for His physical brethren, the Jews." [T.Shoebat].
ReplyDeleteEMULATING Christ carrying the proper cross? Why do you think Paul said (by Holy Spirit) that "...That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved" [Romans 10:9]???
When Peter was boasting to have "have left all, and followed thee", why Jesus rebuked him saying:
"... And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,....." [Mark 10:29]
?????
Because when previously Jesus said this....:
"....Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. ..." [Mark 10:21]
....he was NOT giving a "law", an "order" to follow to have "salvation"; but was simply telling what humans cause their decayed sinful state can NOT do, elsewhere there were MANY humans boasting to be Christs and the mission of God the Son would be useless.
And soon after these words who were pronounced by God the Son you have the effect they were aimed to, to make go out at the light of the day the hypocrisy, the boasting of men in their vanity of mind. And in fact Peter, one of the Apostles the more near Jesus Christ together John and James (maybe because the more spiritually weak?) revealed his boasting with the frustration for seeing his boasting without gains (It seem to see him with tears in his eyes): ....."28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's," [Mark 10:28-29].
Therefore [avlesNovember 14, 2014 at 3:59 AM] Jesus meanwhile was speaking of the rich young man, he was addressing his apostles. Then Satan, using his guys from Origen on (and maybe many others before him) cunningly thought to reverse the true sense of the God the Son's words.
Deletegood works are a very necessary component of our faith? (Matthew 25:31-46, James 2:26, Colossians 1:10, Matthew 7:21, Revelation 20:12-13, Romans 2:6. Faith without works is dead.
ReplyDeleteThank you for giving me the opportunity do develop the argument.
DeleteIn fact Roman Catholicism (Gnosticism disguised as "Christianity") picked up the opportunity of James in order to justify the works with faith in Satan.
James was an hyper legalistic apostle this is why God sent as last Apostle Paul, the apostle of the Faith Alone in order to correct/balance the excessive attitude to continue in the old way of salvation thru works of the Law of the first generation Apostles who, as largely witnessed by the NOT Paulian gospels, were not properly understanding the teaching of Jesus ("But how is that you don't understan??!!" it seems to hear me Jesus when they didn't understand why He was warning about the Pharisees' leaven).
The.... "Show me your works!" [ says James]
.... has been already rebuked by Jesus...[capital letters are mine]:
"Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, TO BE SEEN OF THEM: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven." [Matthew 6:1].
Of course a legalistic Pharisee would at this point make differences between "works" and "alms" but the New Pharisees, the Catholic priests, readily continued the "good works" of their previous Jewish colleagues. Catholicism is Continuing Works by Law.
Well, so why God let James to be included in the Bible? But just for some tasks. 1) to check out the Pharisees who would continue to justify faith with EXTERIOR behavior, a behavior which can be emulated by Satan the same, and 2) of course because as many "believers" says to do works because they have "faith", it is also true that many of the people who believe to have faith are also hypocrites no more or less than the previous category.
Otherwise menpleasers will sit on the right of our Lord, but I believe this is a blasphemy.
what you do to the least of these you did to me, are you arguing that one should do nothing to help ones brother.
DeleteLove thy neighbour as your self, are you arguing we should not love our neighbour
I leave you another commandment love one another as I have loved you, are you saying we shouldn't bother.
love is a decision that brings actions (works)