Sunday, June 22, 2014

Vaudoises of Calabria and Calabrian Mafia: guilty by association

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        Jesuit pope's celebrations in Calabria,  hinting to Calabrian Vaudoises as morally comparable to Ndrangheta [Calabrian Mafia]?

    Again, quoting the same article and the title, which as many others simply reports the facts, read the possible Catholic terrorist scheme behind the visit of the Jesuit pope in Calabria, the art of associating for guiltiness:

Papa Francesco in Calabria, met the relatives of the young Coco and railed against the Mafia: "They are excommunicated"

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2014/06/21/papa-francesco-visita-in-calabria_n_5517353.html?utm_hp_ref=italy

    When you go in Calabria doing masses for the population, in giant-meeting recalling the ones of Mussolini, when you aim your 'pastoral' travel there to be for the "struggle against the Ndrangheta" (the Mafia of Calabria), when you excommunicate the Mafiosi for having slaughtered also children, and you do all this without to mention the blood you shed among that population in 1561, the one of children too, in the same month of June,  it means only one thing. 
     That you are subliminally and satanically hinting that the Ndrangheta killing babies which you, with your giant-meetings claim to be "isolated from population", is the same as the Calabrian Vaudoises who "were alien [isolated] from the native population" [they came from Piedmont fleeing from your Catholic persecutions] and especially were - like today Ndrangheta -  excommunicated....



Above image - not far from the Islamic and Christian 'fundamentalism' by guilty associated; also Vaudoises of Calabria and Mafia of Calabria, guilty for association - see the original post of Stiliyanov here:


".....Since June 1627 they were submitted to the abbè of S. Sisto (town), Matteo Rocco, delegate of Holy Office, a very hard time. Many the arrests and imprisonments. The exasperated Vaoudoises assaulted the castle of Fuscaldo in 1635 and three years later they killed the hated Matteo Rocco. All that provoked new condemnations and executions. The [Roman Catholic] priests of the area begun to bear guns and swords! The only seignior who tried to alleviate the conditions of the Catholicized ones [the survived among Vaudoises] was the Duke of Montalto who ordered severe laws to protect the honor of the women of S. Sisto who "often were targeted by the abbè and his minions who had no scruples in to imprison the women for the most trivial reason in order to sexually abuse of them". And this was not a lonely case. Also the Dominican convent of Guardia (locality) was transformed in a "red light" nest hosting women in the friar's cells".

From:  http://www.arealocale.com/images/2013/20130127_bibbia_di_olivetano_valdese_1535_riforma_protestante.jpg
Today's Vaudoises of Calabria (anyway of course they apostatized respect the old ones): http://www.valdesicosenza.org/ancora-sui-valdesi-in-calabria/

 

Saturday, June 21, 2014


"88" or Roman Catholic Cutthroaters. 

http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2014/06/roman-catholic-cutthroaters.html


Saturday, June 21, 2014

"88" or Roman Catholic Cutthroaters.

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 You, damned Jesuit pope,  to you:

That vpon you may come all the righteous blood shed vpon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel, vnto the blood of Zacharias, sonne of Barachias, whom yee slew betweene the temple and the altar. 

Matthew 23:35  (1611 King James Bible)

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       Calabria, 21st June 2014. The Jesuit pope meeting the relatives of a family - also kids -  murdered by Ndrangheta. A way to try to clean the blood on proper, damned and destined to Hell, soul?


[No this guy was not Jesuit, simply friar, in any case Roman Catholic priest, Slovene]

The Roman Catholic essence, mostly hidden to the large Catholic sheep.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_persecution_of_Serbs
Roman Catholic Ustasha SewingThroat to Serb.


 I cannot access to this page: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/061.shtml


From Facebook - the same Calabria, 453 years ago:
Avles Beluskes ".....e veniva il boia e li pigliava a uno a uno, ......." quick translation (not possible Google it Italian of 16 century of a mail of an inhabitant of the village: "and it came the executioner and tied them with a bandage over the eyes and then brought one in an open place, made him kneel and with a knife cutted his throat and abandoned him: then he gathered the bloody bandage and took the other and did the same; i followed this number till 88 and how much the spectacle was compassionate I leave it to your immagination (.....) in eleven days it occured the execution of 2,000 souls and there are 1,600 condemned; and it followed justice of 100 murdered in the land..." etc. ------> http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardia_Piemontese#Storia

See also:   

Massacre of the Vaudois of Calabria 

(chosen excerpts):

"..... The massacre of the Waldenses of Calabria was perpetrated by the end of May to June 1561. Populations of Waldensian religion, from the valleys of Piedmont who settled in Calabria from the thirteenth century, lived undisturbed until the sixteenth century, when they began to openly profess their faith reformed. Subjected to persecution by the Inquisition, and a system of repressive control, revolted causing the intervention of the Spanish troops of the Viceroyalty of Naples, who made thousands of victims.
 (.............)
 At the end of the fifteenth century there was a new immigration Waldensians from Piedmont valleys as a result of the persecutions of Philip II of Savoy and of Pope Innocent VIII ordered in 1487 by the bull Id cordis our vote, [17] and interested in Calabria, Puglia and Molise. [18] on this occasion, in 1497, King Ferdinand II of Aragon at the Waldensian renewed agreements concluded under the Angevin kingdom, [19] and even opposed the introduction of the Spanish Inquisition in the Kingdom of Naples struck them: rather it turned against the Jews to whom, in 1509, he ordered him to "bear the mark of red cloth, so in the chest, that they may be known to the Jews, and so held and reputed". [20]
(..........)
The request to have new and well-trained pastors for the Calabrian community was welcomed by Calvin himself, and in March 1559 the province of Cuneo, Gian Luigi Pascale left for Calabria in the company of Ursello Filippo and Francesco Tripodi two catechists trained in the Calabrian-Waldensian school of Geneva, Marco and Giacomo Bonelli Uscegli. The latter left them in Campania, heading in Puglia, where also there were Waldensian communities. Then passed in Sicily, Bonelli was arrested and burned at the stake in Messina or Palermo, February 16, 1560. [29]
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The governor ordered him to Castagneto Waldensian exiles from San Sisto to return to their homes and then, on May 8, 1561, to present "all, male and female, petioles and large, in Cosenza." They refused and, armed, gathered on the heights of La Guardia, counting on the support of the locals. When two of them, isolated, were captured by the guards, their companions rushed to the rescue and three guards were killed in the fighting. [71]On May 20, Castagneto and the Greek bishop invited the women and children of the exiles to return to San Sisto, providing them with impunity. Then, at the head of a thousand soldiers, the governor began the roundup of fugitives. Identified forty of them, the soldiers set off in pursuit shouting "kill gl'inimici of faith", but ended up in a narrow gorge, [72] were attacked by the Waldensian posted on the hillsides and had the worst: fifty soldiers, including Castagneto, were killed. [73]It was then banished the crusade against the Waldenses. At the head of the troops responsible for the repression of the Viceroy poses Marino Caracciolo, Marquis of Bucchianico, flanked by brother Ascanio Caracciolo, Prince of Alesia and the marquis of Brienza. The instructions [74] provided by the viceroy Caracciolo to the master predicted that along with the Spanish forces were operating companies and Southern soldiers were also enrolled criminals in exchange for total amnesty for crimes committed. Waldensian was placed on each size: one hundred ducats for every preacher captured alive, twenty ducats for each common heretic alive and ten ducats if dead. The prisoners then had to confess and be hanged, with the exception of children under seventeen years old, which would have been entrusted to the judges of Cosenza. For women, if relasse, [75] was expected death, as well as the facilitators of the fugitives. [76]
 (........)
The old men were "to die happy, young people more fearful," [87] before the prosecutor Pansa who "stood on the steps of the Temple, with a cane in his hand, urging the esecutione," and the inquisitor Malvern, that the process "does not ever struggled to give beatings, slaps, punches, kicks and pelar beard, those petty, 'and everyone was" the greatest laughter of the world "feeling the condemned invoke" the name of Jesu Christ, "and recommend "the Spirit of them in the hands of God". [88]Why serve warning, all the bodies of the condemned men were quartered and hung on poles planted along the road that led from Cosenza Morano, near the border of Basilicata. [89] On June 12, the Jesuit Lucio Croce told the father provincial of Naples Alfonso Salmerón execution of the Waldenses first 88 of a total of 150 death sentences. [90] It was supposed to follow the execution of "percent of older women", tortured and executed by "to have the perfect mixture '. [91] but the sentences were suspended by the intervention of two Jesuits sent to confess the condemned ones, Lucio Croce and Juan Xavier . [92] The latter was astounded by the moral sense of the Calabrian-Waldensian, "Do not you ever saw to blaspheme; the things [probably personal objects] they left in the street; between them there were no troubles, nor accusing the one to the other, and the same about other things and the moral virtue ". [93]
....."etc.   
URL:  http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strage_dei_Valdesi_di_Calabria

 
 ".........In those days, January 5, 1559, was promulgated by Pope Paul IV, on a proposal from the inquisitor Spaniard Fernando de Valdés, a bubble for which the confessors were required to deny absolution to penitents who admitted to reading or owning banned books, unless you autodenunciassero the Inquisition. Pain of excommunication, the confessor must also question the penitent if he knew of others who read these books or would hold. [31] He followed this in February by the bull Cum ex officio apostolatus with which it is threatened, between the 'alia, confiscation of property of those noble that favor the heresy in their lands. [32]..........." - [same URL of Massacre of the Vaudois of Calabria]

 
 
      The spiritual descendants of Roman Catholic cutthroaters who assassinated in 1560 two thousands Vaudoises of Calabria, always come back on the scene of the Satanic bloodY ritual:

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
[Matthew, chapter 23, KJB]


Above image - see below article.
Papa Francesco Calabria, met the relatives of the young Coco Campolongo in prison Castrovillari
The Huffington Post

Posted: 21/06/2014 11:37 PM EDT


http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2014/06/21/papa-francesco-visita-in-calabria_n_5517353.html?utm_hp_ref=italy

 Visit in Calabria for Pope Francis. First stop the prison Castrovillari, reached by the Pope with the helicopter. Two wings of the crowd welcomed him before Bergoglio made its entry in the penitentiary, welcomed by the director and a picket of the prison police. Immediately after the visit began in the structure.In prison inmate Castrovillari is also Campolongo Nicola, father of Coco, the three year old child killed and burned in Cassano allo Ionian alongside his grandfather and his companion of the latter. Pope Francis met with the father and other family members to Coco Campolongo: "Never again happens that a child should have these sufferings," the Pope said "I pray for him continually, do not despair.""The theme of respect for fundamental human rights and the need to match the conditions of serving the sentence is essential," the Pope said, explaining that when the purpose of the rehabilitation of prisoners "is neglected, the execution of the sentence degrades an instrument of punishment and retaliation only social, in turn detrimental to the individual and society. " "The Lord - he added the Pontiff - is a master of reintegration: takes us by the hand and leads us back in the community."Second leg of the trip, the Ionian Sea Cassano, visiting the sick hospice "San Giuseppe Moscati," the palliative care center.Even before the episcopal seminary of Cassano allo Ionian there was a huge crowd cheering for the pope Better World. The pontiff after leaving the Cathedral, where he met with the clergy, arrived at the diocesan seminary, where he has lunch at the same table with the poor of Caritas and some community representatives Saman Mauro Rostagno Cassano. "There is a strongone who once fell manages to get up, "said the Pontiff, eating typical appetizer Calabrian salami and cheese macaroni with sausage gravy and meatloaf and roast veal with vegetables and potatoes. And finally fruit salad and ice cream.Finally, Bergoglio has reached the plain of Sybaris for mass. A cheering crowd greeted the Pope on his arrival, would be 200 thousand faithful. Francis has reserved harsh words to the Mafia: "The 'Ndrangheta is this: worship of evil and contempt for the common good. This evil must be fought, it should be removed, you have to say no," he said, adding that "those who are not in this road well, like the Mafia, they are not in communion with God, are excommunicated. "
 
  "There are no Christians outside the church" by pope Francis SJ
  
 Friday, May 30, 2014


"WALDENSES WERE INDEPENDENT BAPTISTS" [see Val di Susa] 

http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2014/05/waldenses-were-independent-baptists-see.html


Monday, June 16, 2014

Stalingrad - Iraq

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A Different 
From Stalingrad to Koenisberg - in the post "Wlodimir (Vladimir) Ledochowski's Plausible Counter Reformation Stratey" (see link below).



B Different 
Al-Stalingrad, the history repeat itself.


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     History repeat itself (Jesuits are a monotony of cliques). Only substitute the "German Wehrmacht", of Reformed Prussian core, with the 'Reformed' Islam of Wahabism; substitute Stalin's Russia, Jesuit-backed, with Shia Iran, (Jesuits') Putin-backed. And substitute "Eastern Protestant Prussia" and the neighboring Baltic countries with the belt going from the Israeli-Syrian Mediterranean coast to the Hormuz strait. For further details of the present-days Jesuits' World Democratic Government tactic, check the old application of the same SJ Lodochowsky' scheme in this blog:


".....Make sure that key events, along with all of the major players, are manipulated for the desired outcome, including perhaps even your fellow Jesuits, who may not necessarily know your objective[s].
In this case of geo political religious chessboard, that meant a Germany starting a brutal war against civilians, which it would lose......" [by Douglas Willinger].

http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.it/2007/06/slice-of-europe-illustration-religious.html

     The plane of the Jesuits is to liquidate the Sunni/Wahabbi "Reformation" after having imposed to them the "bad guy" role. But then it will be the turn of the Shia Iran, or the "good guy, nowadays the Southern Province of the Eastern Roman Empire [Putin's Russia] . When it will happen, it will be too late for the Ayatollah.

 "...7:44pm June 16, 2014
...Militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) jihadist group are also said to have killed scores of Iraqi soldiers as they pushed an advance on the capital, including in a "horrifying" massacre that has drawn international condemnation.
.........".


URL:  http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/16/03/27/iraq-hits-militants-and-regains-ground

 All fits, nothing more to add to the Stiliyanov's most recent posts:


    Edited some hours after publishing (I forgot Stiliyanov most important post):

събота, 31 май 2014 г.
Guilty by association - are you a FUNDAMENTALIST 

http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2014/05/guilty-by-association.html

"....The brand of Islam that now stands in the way of the Unification is WAHHABISM, which is supported by USA backed and Britain created SAUDI ARABIA. However Rome still needs it to ACCUSE the west of engineering the arabs springs (which they ARE guilty of, but there is an underlying agenda for the destruction of the USA, Britain and Israel) and further, to throw in these theological implications of "sola scriptura" type of reasoning being behind war-mongering and unrest in the world (AKA TALIBAN AMERICA).....":

сряда, 11 юни 2014 г.

Islam - the big picture, The City of Kings 

http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2014/06/islam-big-picture-constantinople.html


 събота, 14 юни 2014 г.

Five 

http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2014/06/five.html

 



Friday, May 30, 2014

"WALDENSES WERE INDEPENDENT BAPTISTS" [see Val di Susa]

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Fortunately, we have the testimony of an eyewitness to the Waldensian movement of the 13th Century, Reinerius Saccho, who was a Roman Catholic inquisitor and persecutor of the Waldenses. Prior to becoming a Catholic, he was himself a Waldensian for 17 years. If anyone would know whether or not the Waldenses baptized infants, surely Reinerius would know. This is his accusation against the Waldenses in his book, "Of the Sects of Modern Heretics," published in 1254.
Secondly, they condemn all the Sacraments of the Church; in the first place, as to baptism, they say that the Catechism is nothing - also, that the ablution which is given to infants profits nothing. [1]
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[see the link in the H. Stiliyanov's comment]




Above image - "TAV: yes of Senate to the agreement between Italy and France, protest of M5S [Movement 5 Stars of Beppe Grillo]". From the article:



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       A comment of Hristo Stiliyanov in:
     [I inserted this site immediately as link under the label "Italy"]

    Again thanks to Hristo for a new vital information. The "Waldensies", or Vaoudoises, as the above site witnesses, were independent Baptists. It confirms the rage against those valleys since the foundation of the Roman Catholicism with his perverse system of pagan beliefs, a rage which continues today with the harsh struggle to stop the building of the High Speed Trains line passing through the valleys. But the most insidious and perverse enemy, if not of a nearly in-existing Christian devotion to the proper spiritual origin at least of what remains of the Vaoudois spiritual heritage represented by an historical religious awareness about "our origin", are not the augers, the construction sites and  security forces in anti-guerrilla equipment, the most insidious enemy, the spiritual enemy, are those swarming masses of "protesters" which submerge the valley with their flags and ideologies born from the workshops of hatred of the Counter Reformation in the past two centuries. As I already noted in my ABE blog, the subtle Jesuitical strategy is to physically encircle those valleys with openly corrupted with fraud giant constructions site,  leaving no other hopes to their inhabitants than to force them to fall in the hands of the Anarchists, Marxists, revolutionaries, guerrilleros, completing with an ideological brainwash the work of complete spiritual destruction dreamed by the popes and their cronies since at least 17 centuries. I know such protestors and their hatred towards anything smelling about "Bible" and "Jesus Christ".

      This is the most awful form of destruction of those valley.  Railroad trains traveling at 300 km per hour are not pleasant, they upset the ecology of the valley and limit the possibility of the economy based on the tourism but they don't enter in the soul. The Mafia doing business with the companies of constructions, once the line has been completed, will disappear. But ideology and hatred will remain forever in the shape of the ideologies of the opponents, as a Jesuit sentinel within the hearts of the natives.

 

 Tuesday, December 04, 2012

New Age mystifications at the service of Roman Catholicism? 


 http://avlesbeluskesexposed.blogspot.it/2012/12/new-age-mystifications-at-service-of.html


Thursday, May 15, 2014



World wide anti-Baptist (and anti-Protestant) strategy unifies Marxist China and Ukrainian low intensity war. 

http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2014/05/world-wide-anti-baptist-and-anti.html

POPE TO GIVE FINAL MARCHING ORDERS TO PRESIDENT PERES [by Barry Chamish]

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"......The Foreign Ministry's Legal Affairs Spokesperson, Esther Samilag, publicly complained about "various capitulations" to the Vatican. She was immediately transferred to a post at the Israeli Embassy in Katmandu, Nepal. ........" [1995]
    
      Another victim of the pharisees working for the Roman Catholic supersessionism and Replacement theology. 


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www.barrychamish.com
 
                                                                                                    POPE TO GIVE FINAL MARCHING ORDERS TO PRESIDENT PERES
                                                                                                                                   by Barry Chamish  
          The Pope flew to Israel on a defamation tour in late May, '14. President Peres organized the tour in April, '13 when he promised the Italian media that "99% of the issues regarding the Israeli handover of the Last Supper Room to the Vatican have been resolved."  It was that last 1% that stopped the turnover which led to the pope's slanderous visit. He stopped first in Jordan where he set the tone for the rest of the visit by equating Israelis with Syrians, who have murdered 160,000 citizens and made refugees of almost two million in just a few years of civil war.
          Then it was a brief helicopter ride to Bethelem where:   The pope also paused for several moments in front of a graffiti on the security wall in Bethlehem, bowing his head in prayer in front of a message proclaiming, "Pope we need to see someone to speak about justice. Bethlehem look like Warsaw ghetto. Free Palestine."   
              Like this ugly publicity stunt wasn't planned. Vicious clergymen acting as advance info gatherers staked the wall and found the perfect graffiti for an international photo-op...if they didn't write the message themselves. Somehow, the angry Israeli reaction to the "incompetent" pope smothered the only big story of the trip:

Pope Francis invited both Abbas and Israeli President Shimon Peres on Sunday to his home in the Vatican for a "heartfelt prayer" for peace.
"I wish to invite you, president Mahmud Abbas, together with President Shimon Peres, to join me in heartfelt prayer to God for the gift of peace," he said at the end of an open-air mass in Manger Square in Bethlehem.
"I offer my home in the Vatican as a place for this encounter of prayer," he said. "Building peace is difficult, but living without peace is a constant torment. The men and women of these lands, and of the entire world, all of them, ask us to bring before God their fervent hopes for peace." 


              Peres, according to Leah Rabin in her autobiography, was educated in a Jesuit school in Poland. The underhistory only gets worse. Jesuit Pope Francis commemorates the Franciscan Order, which along with the Benedictines, organized Operation Paperclip in the late '40s to hide over 100,000 Nazis in their seminaries, give them new identities, and ship them to freedom largely in South America. The Vatican saved the Nazis, while Israel is its lengthening history has convicted only one nazi in its courts.
             Perhaps, given what has been done to them in living memory, we can explain the utter lack of reasoning among the Jews, even at their highest levels. Look at this wacky reportage of a publicized incident of the papal tour by the editor of The Jerusalem Post:  

In one of his blander pronouncements during the papal visit, Netanyahu
mentioned on Monday that Jesus spoke Hebrew. There was nothing
incorrect about Netanyahu’s statement. Jesus was after all, an Israeli
Jew.
But Francis couldn’t take the truth. So he indelicately interrupted
his host, interjecting, “Aramaic.”
Netanyahu was probably flustered. True, at the time, educated Jews
spoke and wrote in Aramaic. And Jesus was educated. But the language
of the people was Hebrew. And Jesus preached to the people, in Hebrew.


      This is so wrong, it borders on total delusion. Educated Jews spoke Hebrew in religious ceremonies but Aramaic was the common language of Israeli Jews at the time of Jesus. Creating false history has made Jews accessories to their own recent disasters. Peres, who has never sincerely prayed to any G-d known to the Jews, is not going to the Vatican to pray with any pope. Time is running out, Peres didn't deliver the Vatican their "properties," and he is going to Rome to get his final marching orders.
      The Jewish "analysts" won't or can't be honest about their own recent history. In the mid-90s I co-edited a pre-internet newsletter called Inside Israel with Joel Bainerman. My buddy Lenny Wolfe was a close friend of Ron Pundak. He asked me if I'd like to meet him. Within two days Joel, me and Pundak were meeting in a Tel Aviv coffeehouse. Pundak was boasting and by being effusive, he spilled the beans on Oslo, peace and Peres.

To summarize real history: In September, 1993 at Kennebunkport, MA, outgoing American President George Bush, ordered incoming Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin to begin negotiations to bring the PLO to Israel in the name of "peace," knowing it would instead usher in an era of terrorism. Rabin despised his Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, so assigned the "diplomatic" task to Deputy Foreign Minister Yossi Beilin behind Peres' back. Beilin sent two wacky Tel Aviv "idealists," Ron Pundak and Yair Hirshfeld, to Oslo to negotiate the Oslo "peace accord." I got the ugly scoop of Oslo from Ron Pundak. Peres found out about their mission and his exclusion in the spring of '93. Knowing this Oslo peace was the only game in town, he sent Marek Halter to the pope with a letter offering Jerusalem as a prize for insinuating the Vatican in the "peace process."
          In November of '93, the Oslo accord was signed, adjudicated by Beilin. Two weeks later, in December of '93, the Vatican Accord recognizing Israel, adjudicated by Beilin, was signed. Oslo and Vatican were the one and the same "peace accords." How did Vatican spy, current President Peres, react to the "peace?"

'Peres wants to yield sites to Vatican' 
President Shimon hand over Israeli Peres is willing to sovereignty of key Christian holy sites to the Vatican, a proposition that is reportedly opposed by Interior Minister Eli Yishai and that has ruffled feathers among other senior government officials, Army Radio reported on Monday.
According to the radio report, the president is exerting pressure on the government to give up sovereignty over six sites, including the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth, the Coenaculum on Mount Zion, Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, and the Church of the Multiplication on the Kinneret.


        Read on. By early '95 Rabin opposed Peres and his Vatican handover agenda. For that Peres organized his murder...with Vatican oversight.
 

The Vatican's Jerusalem Agenda
By Barry Chamish

Mon Sep 22 1997




Did Shimon Peres make a deal with the Vatican?
Consider the evidence:

  • On Sept. 10, '93, just three days before the signing of the Declaration of Principles in Washington, the Italian news magazine La Stampa reported that part of the peace deal was an unwritten understanding that the Vatican would receive political authority over the Old City of Jerusalem by the end of the millenium. The newspaper reported that Shimon Peres had promised the pope to hand over the holy sites of Jerusalem the previous May and that Arafat had accepted the agreement.
  • In March '94, the Israeli newsmagazine Shishi published an interview with Mark Halter, a French intellectual and close friend of Shimon Peres. He said he delivered a letter from Peres to the Pope the previous May, within which Peres offered the Vatican hegemony over the Old City of Jerusalem. The article detailed Peres's offer which essentially turned Jerusalem into an international city overseen by the Holy See.
  • In March '95, the radio station Arutz Sheva announced that it had seen a cable sent by the Israeli Embassy in Rome to the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem outlining the handover of the Old City of Jerusalem to the Vatican. Two days later Haaretz published the cable on its front page. The Foreign Ministry explained that the cable was genuine but someone had whited out the word "not." ie We will not transfer authority to the Vatican. Incredibly, numerous Bnei Brak rabbis who had cancelled Passover meetings with Peres over the issue of the cable accepted the explanation and reinvited him to their homes.
The Foreign Ministry's Legal Affairs Spokesperson, Esther Samilag, publicly complained about "various capitulations" to the Vatican. She was immediately transferred to a post at the Israeli Embassy in Katmandu, Nepal.
MK Avraham Shapira announced in the Knesset that he had information that all Vatican property in Jerusalem was to become tax exempt and that large tracts of real estate on Mount Zion were given to the pope in perpetuity.
Jerusalem's late Deputy Mayor Shmuel Meir announced that he had received "information that properties promised to the Vatican would be granted extra-territorial status."
Beilin was forced to answer the accusations. He admitted, "Included in the Vatican Agreement is the issue of papal properties in Israel that will be resolved by a committee of experts that has already been formed." If so, this committee has not since released any proof of its existence.
With all this in mind, how do we interpret the Vatican's current position on Jerusalem?
The following report, circulated by MSANews may shed some light on that:

Vatican City, Jun 14, 1997 (VIS) - Archbishop Renato Martino, apostolic nuncio and Holy See permanent observer to the United Nations, spoke June 9 on the status of Jerusalem at the New York headquarters of the Path to Peace Foundation. The archbishop addressed members of this foundation as well as U.S. members of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. He began by briefly summarizing the "well-known and long-standing position of the Holy See with regard to Jerusalem. He stated that Jerusalem "for us, of course, along with the rest of the Holy Land, is that special link between heaven and earth, that place where God walked and ultimately died among men. And of course we recognize that others revere Jerusalem as the city of David and the prophets and the city known to Mohammed.... It is a spiritual treasure for all of humanity, and it is a city of two peoples, Arabs and Jews, and of the three monotheistic religions, Christianity, Judaism and Islam." Archbishop Martino added that "in recent years it has been increasingly difficult to break through the political and media-imposed stranglehold on the question of Jerusalem." he recounted Jerusalem's recent history, recalling in particular the UN's General Assembly Resolution 181 of 1947 calling for Jerusalem to be considered a 'corpus separatum' under the Trusteeship Council of the United Nations," a resolution which Israel accepted. He pointed out that, in addressing the gridlock which has resulted from the 1967 Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem, "the Holy See has therefore advocated the granting to Jerusalem of an 'internationally guaranteed special statute. That is the phrase used by Pope John Paul II in his 1984 Apostolic Letter 'Redemption is Anno'."
This statute "asks that regardless of how the problem of sovereignty is resolved and who is called to exercise it, there should be a supra-national and international entity endowed with means adequate to insure the preservation of the special characteristics of the City, its Holy Places, the freedom to visit them, its religious and ethnic communities, a guarantee of their essential liberties, and its city plan'."
The apostolic nuncio recalled the establishment of diplomatic relations between the Holy See and Israel in 1993, when both signed the 'Fundamental Agreement." He noted Article 4 of this agreement where "both the Holy See and Israel affirm their continuing commitment to the 'Status quo' in the Christian Holy Places."
He also spoke of the problems sparked by Israel's recent authorization of "a project for the construction of settlements in occupied territory in East Jerusalem" for which "there was wide-spread international condemnation." This issue, he reminded those present, was brought before the UN Security Council on March 7 and March 21 of this year, but without resolution "because the sole country on the Security Council which opposed the Resolution was the United States."
An Emergency Session of the General Assembly, "organized only nine other times in the history of the United Nations" was held on April 24-25. The Holy See delegation was contacted and asked for suggestions for a Resolution, Archbishop Martino said. And he recounted the meetings, rough drafts of proposals and negotiations which followed.
The approved texts of the eventual Resolution, he underlined, contained "those points championed by the Holy See.... The General Assembly has here called for 'internationally guaranteed provisions' - the equivalent of the 'internationally guaranteed special status' called for by Pope John Paul II. This is particularly noteworthy because in this case, the Arab delegations all voted for this Resolution and therefore for this provision."
"The Holy Places within Jerusalem," concluded Archbishop Martino, "are not merely museum relics to be opened and closed by the dominant political authority, no matter who that might be at any given moment. They are living shrines precious to the hearts and faith of believers." DELSS/STATUS JERUSALEM/UN:MARTINO VIS 970616 (640)
Could that supra-national entity which will oversee the international city of Jerusalem be the Vatican just as Peres promised? And how do we react to Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert's recent announcement that he will begin negotiations with the Vatican, but "only over holy sites?"
 

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